On this episode of Forward Ever: Leading in Challenging Times, host Gary Shorman speaks with Rev. Kathy Riegelman.

<div><iframe title="Forward Ever: Rev. Kathy Riegelman" height="400" width="400" style="border: none;" scrolling="no" data-name="pb-iframe-player" src="https://www.podbean.com/media/player/22by7-e77e00?from=pb6admin&download=1&version=1&vjs=1&auto=1&share=1&download=1&rtl=0&fonts=Helvetica&skin=3&pfauth="></iframe></div><p>On this episode of Forward Ever: Leading in Challenging Times, host Gary Shorman speaks with Rev. Kathy Riegelman.</p>

🎤Forward Ever: Rev. Kathy Riegelman, KUMC